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Kaija Wycisk Mortensen's avatar

And thanks for transforming my understanding of the natural man! This all rings so true. “on an entirely human level”

is how I experience “the natural anthropos” (I can’t bring myself to use the phrase natural woman because then a song I don’t love starts playing unceasingly in my mind...) -- I think of it as “being left totally to my own devices” without the help of the spirit. And I love the idea of the enemy of God being the opposite of growth and becoming -- and the “become as a child” and “grow up” aren’t really opposites -- you have to see yourself as a child to embrace a growth mindset. And you have to be willing to mature and not remain and adult to grow :-)

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So much good stuff here! First, this is my favorite paragraph: “The new birth, described in so many passages in the Bible and the scriptures of the restoration, is a transformation of our character and our desires. But it is also an epistemological transformation, in that we go from the psychikos person to the pneumatikos person and therefore acquire brand-new ways of knowing. New vistas of knowledge unfold to the one who is born of God, for the Spirit begins to act on them and their bodies such that they become able to know things that they could not otherwise know.”. Have you read L.A. Paul’s book Transformative Experience? Because these are exactly the two dimensions of transformation she talks about -- transformation of our values and preferences (character) and epistemological transformation -- we gain the ability to know things we couldn’t have know before the transformation. Thank you for helping me see this continuity with the scriptures! And these two transformations are why she thinks we can’t rationally and from a first-person respective choose to be transformed -- but that’s a conversation for another day!

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